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December 5, am. His great grandparents are Richard W.

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Daniels Abt. Richard is the son of Thomas C. Many more project members, including myself are descended from William. The combination of a Y marker test and the Big Y test is now considered the gold standard for testing. Under the sale, anyone who purchases a Big Y test, and has already ordered a Y37 test will automatically be upgraded to a Y marker test. This is great, but it is still not an inexpensive test. One way to reduce the price is by crowd funding. We have previously done this for a Mitrochondrial DNA test in the Rand group that many of us also belong to.

Steve Daniels descends from his son, Nathaniel Daniels Aft. Steve has already taken both the marker test and the Big Y. Most of us are autosomal descendants of John Daniels, but this test will allow us to follow the Y-DNA of our Daniels line far back into time. If anyone else would like to defer the cost of the Big Y test, you can contribute any amount as follows: 1. Go to the General Fund Donation page.

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Keith McDonald. November 25, pm.

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Good afternoon. Keith was interested in tracing his McDonald family back to a specific home in the British Isles. He ordered a Y test, which you can view in the results of this group His matches were mostly the surnames of Daniels, Daniel, Dennis, etc. He mostly closely matched kit on his markers with John Daniels being the most common ancestor. My questions are: 1 Is it safe to assume he is a direct descendant of John Daniels?

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Is there a relationship between the surnames, or just a coincidence? He doesn't have any autosomal DNA tests done yet. I thought this might be a good idea. Thank you. November 26, am. Kevin made several good points; many different families assumed the Daniels or Donald surnames over time and there is no connection between many of them. Keith also has a one step closer match to , Charles G. Daniels at 67 markers. He did not take a marker test, but is a documented descendant of John Daniels.

Stephen and Charles descend from different sons of John Daniels Jr. It is certainly possible that Keith's match was with a common ancestor shared with John Daniels. This may not identify additional recent matches, but Stephen Daniels, , has already taken that test, and this would identify how many SNP's that Keith shares Stephen Daniels. The test will not answer the question when and if Daniels became McDonald or who their common ancestor is, but will become more beneficial as more people take a Big Y test. Tomorrow morning, I will receive a new set of coupons, which may include Big Y's.

That being said, I have close matches on my Wilson line that have no Family Finder matches, because the common ancestor is distant.

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Has Keith exhausted the paper trail search in Ohio? Is his family found in town or county histories, land, probate, church, vital records? Keith McDonald likes this. At the time I posted the first message, the only information I had was Cyrus being born in Knox County in , with his mother, Sarah born abt in Pennsylvania from census records. He was on the first voters list for Pike Township in before the other Cyrus' birth.

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I suspected this to be the father. I had missed the marriage record. This is the first time I've seen a different spelling in the family.

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Only hint to Cyrus, Sr. I haven't found any other children to state a birthplace for the father. Cyrus is years old in the census. Not sure Knox County, Ohio had an I found him and his son, Joseph, in the census for Knox County, Ohio, also. Sarah "Sally" Creviston b. This is the only Cyrus McDonald for the time I've found in the northeast. I haven't found him in any census records. He may not have been a householder.